Frankly Speaking: Is a Palestinian state more remote than ever?

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Updated 17 February 2025
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Frankly Speaking: Is a Palestinian state more remote than ever?

Frankly Speaking: Is a Palestinian state more remote than ever?
  • Riyad Mansour rejects forced displacement of Palestinians from Gaza, wants Israeli PM Netanyahu to face justice at ICC for war crimes
  • The permanent observer of Palestine to the UN says the PA appreciates “Saudi Arabia’s principled position on statehood”

DUBAI: Riyad Mansour, permanent observer of Palestine to the UN, has strongly rejected any proposal to eject the Palestinian population from Gaza to Jordan and Egypt, reaffirming the Palestinian people’s right to rebuild their homeland and establish a state of their own.

Appearing on the Arab News current affairs program “Frankly Speaking,” Mansour also praised Saudi Arabia’s support for Palestinian sovereignty, accused Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of war crimes, and outlined the role of the Palestinian Authority in Gaza’s future.

The controversial proposal floated by US President Donald Trump to take control of Gaza and relocate Palestinians to Jordan and Egypt has been met with outright rejection by regional leaders.

King Abdullah II of Jordan, the first Arab leader to meet Trump in Washington since he began his second term, made it clear that Amman would not accept any forced transfer of Palestinians. Instead, Jordan agreed to take in 2,000 critically ill Palestinian children for medical treatment.

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Mansour highlighted the unified Arab stance against any forced displacement of Palestinians. “The King (Abdullah II) put on his X account that the Kingdom (of Jordan) is against the transfer of the Palestinians outside of the Gaza Strip,” he told “Frankly Speaking” host Katie Jensen.

“Their position is very firm in order to see the ceasefire holding and the implementation of the agreement. He said that there is no solution except the two-state solution and readiness of Jordan and the Arabs to work with the Trump administration for accomplishing these objectives.”

Following Trump’s remarks earlier this month in which he announced his intention to take over Gaza and remove its Palestinian population, Saudi Arabia issued a strong statement reaffirming Palestinian sovereignty.

“The Kingdom affirms that the Palestinian people have a right to their land, and they are not intruders or immigrants to it who can be expelled whenever the brutal Israeli occupation wishes,” Saudi Arabia’s Foreign Ministry posted on X. Similar strong statements on the issue have been issued by the Kingdom since then.




Riyad Mansour, permanent observer of Palestine to the UN, during his appearance on the “Frankly Speaking” current affairs show. (AN Photo)

Mansour praised Saudi Arabia’s swift and firm stance. “I was not surprised,” he said. “We work very closely with our brothers in Saudi Arabia at all kinds of levels. We are on the same page, that the question of Palestine and the rights of the Palestinian people should be recognized.”

He also highlighted the role of the Arab Peace Initiative, first proposed by Saudi Arabia in 2002, in shaping the international response to Palestinian statehood. “We appreciate all these principled, very powerful, and strong positions of Saudi Arabia,” he said.

“And I believe all of the Arab countries are on the same page with Saudi Arabia in order to push back against those who want... to finish the national aspirations of the Palestinian people.”

Netanyahu, currently facing corruption charges that could lead to a 10-year prison sentence, has come under further scrutiny for his handling of the war in Gaza. Many critics believe his political survival hinges on prolonging the conflict.

Mansour was unequivocal about Netanyahu’s legal and moral accountability. “At the global (level), he is also an international wanted criminal by the ICC. There is a warrant for his arrest as a war criminal and he has to face justice in that International Criminal Court.”

The ICC issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu on Nov. 24, accusing him of using starvation as a method of warfare and of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population, and of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts — accusations he has rejected.

Similar warrants were issued for Yoav Gallant, Israel’s former minister of defense, and for Hamas military commander Mohammed Deif, who was reportedly killed in an Israeli airstrike on July 13, 2024.

While leaving Israeli domestic matters to their citizens, Mansour stressed that the international community must pursue justice for the atrocities committed in Gaza. “The international community will deal with him as a wanted international criminal in The Hague and the ICC.”

Asked whether the conflict in Gaza and the threatened exile of the Palestinian people would have happened had Hamas not committed the Oct. 7, 2023, attack on southern Israel, or if it had agreed to hand over the hostages taken in that attack much sooner, Mansour said nothing justified the “genocidal war” Israel had mounted against civilians.

“The history of the Palestine question did not start on Oct. 7,” he said. “And regardless of what happened on Oct. 7, there is no justification whatsoever for the genocidal war committed against the Palestinian civilians.”

Since the war began, some 64,000 Palestinians have been killed, according to some estimates, while at least 110,000 have been injured, thousands of children orphaned, and countless more having lost limbs in Israel’s bombardment of the enclave.




A Palestinian man stands amidst the rubble of buildings destroyed during the Israeli offensive, amid a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, in Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip on February 16, 2025. (Reuters)

“These crimes cannot be justified for any reason whatsoever under international law, under morality, under humanity,” said Mansour.

“So therefore, those who are trying to justify this massive amount of killing, because of what happened on Oct. 7, there is no justification for what they did, and those criminals who gave the order to commit these crimes against the Palestinian people, especially the children and women, should face justice and they should receive the punishment that they deserve.”

With ongoing speculation over who will govern Gaza after the war, which has been paused since the ceasefire deal of Jan. 19, Mansour insisted that the Palestinian Authority remains the legitimate government of the State of Palestine.

“We have a legitimate government and we have the recognition of the international community and the Arab official systems of the government of the State of Palestine and the Palestine Liberation Organization as the representative of the Palestinian people,” he said.

He outlined the PA’s responsibility in ensuring governance in Gaza after the war. “Now, those who have this legitimacy, they have also the responsibility to shoulder their responsibilities in terms of doing what needs to be done in the Gaza Strip.”

Mansour pointed to a detailed plan presented by Egypt and shared with the UN, which supports PA governance as a key component of regional peace efforts.

“The legitimate government, which is acceptable by the international community, is the party that’s supposed to be dealing with its full power in terms of its responsibilities in the Gaza Strip,” he said.

Ahmed Aboul Gheit, secretary-general of the Arab League, suggested in a recent interview with Al Arabiya that Hamas should step aside if it serves Palestinian interests.

Asked whether the group should relinquish power, Mansour emphasized the need for Palestinian self-determination.

“We have a lot of issues to deal with internally in the Palestinian house,” he said. “And I believe that we should be left to deal with these issues internally.”

He added that once a permanent ceasefire is in place, internal Palestinian matters can be addressed. “Once we succeed in putting an end to this war and make the ceasefire permanent, there are a lot of things that we need to deal with internally,” he added.

Trump’s suggestion that many Palestinians would rather leave Gaza permanently has been widely condemned by Arab leaders. Mansour dismissed the claim, pointing to the recent return of hundreds of thousands of displaced Palestinians to their war-ravaged homes in the north of Gaza.




During the interview with Katie Jensen (L), Mansour praised Saudi Arabia’s swift and firm stance on the Palestinian issue. (AN Photo)

“The answer was given by our people who marched in two days, in the span of a few hours, by marching from the south to the north in more than 450,000 people,” he said.

“They knew that they were going back to destroyed homes and properties, but loving the land and the place where you were born and where you have memories and you have dreams, it is so valuable to us. It is in our DNA as Palestinians.”

Mansour reaffirmed that the Palestinian people will never accept forced displacement.

“The answer came from those who marched on their feet, not even by vehicle, from the south to the north, old, young, all of them going back to these places. So that is the answer of those of our people whom some say that they have no choice but to leave. No, they have a choice.

“They are returning to the place that they cherish and love. This is the meaning of why do people fight for their national homelands? Why do they defend it with all of their might? Because they love it and they’re attached to it and they want to be in it.

“That is so applicable to us, the Palestinian people, and for those who do not know us, this is a very important component of our being as Palestinians, of how much we love our homeland, how much we love our land and our country, whether it has palaces on it or whether it has destroyed homes.

“It is our land and we don’t have any other country except the country that we love, which is Palestine.”


Israel military says it has received the bodies of dead Gaza hostages

Israel military says it has received the bodies of dead Gaza hostages
Updated 20 February 2025
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Israel military says it has received the bodies of dead Gaza hostages

Israel military says it has received the bodies of dead Gaza hostages
  • The remains to be released from the Gaza Strip are of Shiri Bibas and her two children, Ariel and Kfir
  • Thousands of people, including large numbers of masked and armed fighters from Hamas and other factions, gathered at the handover site on the outskirts of the southern Gaza city

KHAN YOUNIS/JERUSALEM: The Israeli military said it had received the bodies of the deceased hostages handed over by Hamas, through the Red Cross, in Gaza on Thursday.
“The hostages’ bodies were handed over to IDF (military) and ISA (security agency) representatives in Gaza,” a military spokesperson said. A statement from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office said Israel had “received the caskets of four fallen hostages.”

The Red Cross had received four coffins during the handover earlier on Thursday of the bodies of Israeli hostages, including Bibas family members, in the southern Gaza city of Khan Yunis, an AFP journalist reported.
Staff loaded the caskets onto trucks after covering them in white shrouds as a crowd of hundreds watched in the rain.
The remains are of Shiri Bibas and her two children, Ariel and Kfir. Kfir was the youngest captive taken that day. Hamas has said all three were killed in an Israeli airstrike early in the war. The militant group also plans to release the body of Oded Lifshitz, who was 83 when he was abducted.
“The heart of an entire nation breaks,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday in anticipation of the bodies being returned to Israel.
Thousands of people, including large numbers of masked and armed fighters from Hamas and other factions, gathered at the handover site on the outskirts of the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis, where large banners had been set up, including one showing an image of coffins draped in Israeli flags.
There were no plans to broadcast the handover live in Hostage Square in Tel Aviv, where Israelis have gathered to watch the release of living hostages. The square was empty as it rained on and off in both locations, which are about 100 kilometers (60 miles) apart.
Israelis have celebrated the return of 24 living hostages in recent weeks under a tenuous ceasefire that paused over 15 months of war. But the handover on Thursday will provide a grim reminder of those who died in captivity as the talks leading up to the truce dragged on for over a year.
It could also provide impetus for negotiations on the second stage of the ceasefire that have hardly begun. The first phase is set to end at the beginning of March.
Infant was the youngest taken hostage
Kfir Bibas was just 9 months old, a red-headed infant with a toothless smile, when militants stormed into the family’s home on Oct. 7, 2023. His brother Ariel was 4. Video shot that day showed a terrified Shiri swaddling the two boys as militants led them into Gaza.
Her husband, Yarden Bibas, was taken separately and released this month after 16 months in captivity.
Relatives in Israel have clung to hope, marking Kfir’s first and second birthdays and his brother’s fifth. The Bibas family said in a statement Wednesday that it would wait for “identification procedures” before acknowledging that their loved ones were dead.
Supporters throughout Israel have worn orange in solidarity with the family — a reference to two boys’ red hair — and a popular children’s song was written in their honor.
Like the Bibas family, Oded Lifshitz was abducted from Kibbutz Nir Oz, along with his wife Yocheved, who was freed during a weeklong ceasefire in November 2023. Oded was a journalist who campaigned for the recognition of Palestinian rights and peace between Arabs and Jews.
Hamas-led militants abducted 251 hostages, including some 30 children, in the Oct. 7 attack, in which they also killed some 1,200 people, mostly civilians.
More than half the hostages, and most of the women and children, have been released in ceasefire agreements or other deals. Israeli forces have rescued eight and have recovered dozens of bodies of people killed in the initial attack or who died in captivity.
It’s not clear if the ceasefire will last
Hamas is set to free six living hostages on Saturday in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners, and says it will release four more bodies next week, completing the ceasefire’s first phase. That will leave the militants with some 60 hostages, all men, around half of whom are believed to be dead.
Hamas has said it won’t release the remaining captives without a lasting ceasefire and a full Israeli withdrawal. Netanyahu, with the full backing of the Trump administration, says he is committed to destroying Hamas’ military and governing capacities and returning all the hostages, goals widely seen as mutually exclusive.
Trump’s proposal to remove some 2 million Palestinians from Gaza so the US can own and rebuild it, which has been embraced by Israel but universally rejected by Palestinians and Arab countries, has thrown the ceasefire into further doubt.
Hamas could be reluctant to free more hostages if it believes the war will resume with the goal of annihilating the group or forcibly transferring Gaza’s population.
Israel’s military offensive killed over 48,000 Palestinians, mostly women and children, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry, which does not distinguish between civilians and combatants in its records. Israel says it has killed over 17,000 fighters, without providing evidence.
The offensive destroyed vast areas of Gaza, reducing entire neighborhoods to fields of rubble and bombed-out buildings. At its height, the war displaced 90 percent of Gaza’s population. Many have returned to their homes to find nothing left and no way of rebuilding.


Yemeni minister calls for arrest of Houthi officials attending Hezbollah chief Nasrallah’s funeral

Yemeni minister calls for arrest of Houthi officials attending Hezbollah chief Nasrallah’s funeral
Updated 20 February 2025
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Yemeni minister calls for arrest of Houthi officials attending Hezbollah chief Nasrallah’s funeral

Yemeni minister calls for arrest of Houthi officials attending Hezbollah chief Nasrallah’s funeral
  • The Houthis did not officially announce a delegation was attending the funeral, but the Houthi-run Al-Masirah TV reported a delegation from Yemen would participate

CAIRO: Yemeni Information Minister Moammar Al-Eryani called on Wednesday for the arrest of a group of leaders from Yemen’s Iran-aligned Houthis who he said will attend Lebanese Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah’s funeral in Beirut.
Nasrallah, who had served as Hezbollah’s secretary general for more than 30 years, was killed on September 27 as Israel ramped up its attacks on southern Lebanon. His funeral is scheduled for February 23.
Eryani demanded that the Lebanese government arrest the Houthi leaders and hand them over to the rival internationally recognized government in a post on X.
He did not name the Houthi officials.
Neither the Lebanese government nor Houthi leaders was immediately available for comment.
The Houthis did not officially announce a delegation was attending the funeral, but the Houthi-run Al-Masirah TV reported a delegation from Yemen would participate. “We affirm that the movement of these terrorist leaders... in this timing is not a mere participation in the funeral, which is being used as a cover, to gather all the leaders of the Iranian axis and assess the situation after the blows they received,” he added.
The Yemeni minister was referring to the recent Israeli attacks against Iran-backed groups in the region including Hezbollah and the Houthis.
Both groups launched parallel attacks against Israel during its war in Gaza to show support for Palestinians.
The Houthis, who control northern Yemen, also carried out more than 100 attacks on ships off the shores of Yemen since November 2023, disrupting global shipping and causing route changes and losses.
The Palestinian militant group Hamas’s attack on Israel in October 2023 killed about 1,200 people in southern Israel, according to Israeli tallies.
Israel’s retaliatory offensive on Gaza has killed more than 48,000 Palestinians, according to Palestinian health officials, laid waste to much of the enclave, and displaced hundreds of thousands.


Sudan crisis could worsen if paramilitaries declare parallel govt: UN

Sudan crisis could worsen if paramilitaries declare parallel govt: UN
Updated 20 February 2025
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Sudan crisis could worsen if paramilitaries declare parallel govt: UN

Sudan crisis could worsen if paramilitaries declare parallel govt: UN

UNITED NATIONS: The crisis in Sudan could worsen if paramilitary forces fighting the army go ahead with plans to declare a parallel government, the United Nations warned Wednesday.
“For us, preserving the unity of Sudan, the sovereignty and the territorial integrity, remains a key ingredient for a sustainable resolution of the conflict,” the UN secretary-general’s spokesman Stephane Dujarric said.
At a high-profile event in Nairobi this week, the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces, at war with the Sudanese army for nearly two years, said they would sign a founding charter that would lead to the formation of a “peace and unity government” in Sudan.
Initially scheduled for Tuesday at Nairobi’s state-owned Kenyatta International Convention Center, the signing was postponed to Friday.
“We’re very deeply concerned about any further escalation of the Sudanese conflict, and any steps like this one, which would increase the fragmentation of the country and risk making this crisis even worse,” Dujarric said of the planned proclamation.
Sudan’s foreign ministry, loyal to army chief Abdel Fattah Al-Burhan, criticized Kenya for allowing the event.
Since April 2023, the war between the army and RSF has killed tens of thousands of people, uprooted more than 12 million and created the world’s largest hunger and displacement crises.


Israel says 3 Palestinian militants killed in West Bank

Israel says 3 Palestinian militants killed in West Bank
Updated 20 February 2025
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Israel says 3 Palestinian militants killed in West Bank

Israel says 3 Palestinian militants killed in West Bank
  • A Palestinian official confirmed that three people had been killed by Israeli forces

JERUSALEM: The Israeli military said it killed three “wanted terrorists” in the occupied West Bank Wednesday, and a Palestinian official reported that Israeli forces were holding the bodies of three people.
Soldiers “eliminated three wanted terrorists in the area of Al Faraa, who sold weapons for terror purposes,” the military said in a statement.
“Two additional wanted individuals were apprehended.”
A Palestinian official confirmed that three people had been killed by Israeli forces.
“Three people were assassinated, and their bodies are being held” by the Israeli forces, Tubas governor Ahmad Al-Asaad told AFP.
Violence in the West Bank, which Israel has occupied since 1967, has escalated since the October 2023 outbreak of war in the Gaza Strip.
At least 897 Palestinians including militants have been killed by Israeli forces or settlers in the West Bank since the Gaza war began, according to an AFP tally based on figures provided by the Palestinian health ministry in Ramallah.
At least 32 Israelis, including some soldiers, have been killed in Palestinian attacks or confrontations during Israeli operations in the West Bank over the same period, according to official Israeli figures.


Two jailed for 18 years over tower block collapse in Turkiye quake

Two jailed for 18 years over tower block collapse in Turkiye quake
Updated 19 February 2025
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Two jailed for 18 years over tower block collapse in Turkiye quake

Two jailed for 18 years over tower block collapse in Turkiye quake
  • There were 22 such blocks in the complex, nearly all of which collapsed when the first 7.8-magnitude tremor struck before dawn on Feb. 6, 2023, killing 1,400 people
  • Wednesday’s verdict related to the collapse of Block B where 115 people died

ISTANBUL: Two senior figures involved in the construction of a part a huge Turkish residential complex that collapsed in the 2023 earthquake have been jailed for more than 18 years, local media reported Wednesday.
The case concerned an eight-story tower block at the Ebrar complex in the southeastern city of Kahramanmaras, Türkiye’s private NTV broadcaster said.
There were 22 such blocks in the complex, nearly all of which collapsed when the first 7.8-magnitude tremor struck before dawn on Feb. 6, 2023, killing 1,400 people.
Wednesday’s verdict related to the collapse of Block B where 115 people died, NTV said, with the judge handing senior contractor Tevfik Tepebasi and Atilla Oz, head of the cooperative that built the block, 18 years and eight months each for “causing death and injury through conscious negligence.”
There were four other defendants in the case, three of whom were acquitted for lack of evidence, while the fourth was being tried in absentia, NTV said.
Tepebasi — who was jailed shortly after the quake and is being prosecuted in several other quake-related cases — caused an uproar at one hearing a year ago when he told the court he should not be charged with a crime because: “I don’t know anything about construction.”
Quoted by NTV, several of the victims’ families said they were not satisfied with the sentences and the fact that three defendants were acquitted, saying they would appeal.
The earthquake killed more than 53,500 people in Turkiye and nearly 6,000 in neighboring Syria. It also razed 39,000 buildings and left another 200,000 severely damaged, leaving nearly two million people homeless.
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan pointed the finger at negligent building contractors, accusing them of cutting corners by using cheap concrete and ignoring basic construction standards, with more than 200 contractors and developers arrested in the immediate aftermath of the quake.
But there have been few, if any, investigations into the public officials who signed off on building permits and safety inspections, which can only be opened with the interior ministry’s permission.